400 kilometers loads in five minutes of ByD are as impressive as it is not very useful. At least they think of Mercedes

“Probably, no.” With that forceful response, Andrew Cornelia, CEO of Mercedes-Benz High-Power Charging and therefore the head of the company’s recharge systems, explained his opinion on the Awesome recharge system presented by byd A few days ago. The answer has arrived in Plugged-in podcastthe radio space of Insideevs. There, Cornelia explained that the exercise for having such a rapid recharge under the arm obeys the need to give a backup to users than to the real utility of the same. The origin of these comments must be sought in the presentation of ByD a few days ago. The company confirmed that it has two cars ready and a load platform that allows recharging up to 400 kilometers of autonomy in five minutes. They get it, on paper, Delivering 1 MWh of sustained power. At the time we explain that it would be necessary to do to what extent it is true to recharge 400 real kilometers in five minutes. Keep in mind that the Chinese homologation cycle is much more lax than the European WLTP that, in fact, It does not completely reflect consumption From electric cars at highway speeds 120-130 km/h in the vast majority of European countries. With such a power, yes, the data is almost irrelevant because to fill 400 kilometers in five minutes it is possible that very little more time is needed. Of course, you have to have some conditions into account. The first is that, Assuming a consumption of 20 kWh/100 kma figure that is not especially good or exceptionally high, it would be necessary to fill the battery with 80 kW to make those 400 real kilometers of autonomy. This implies that a much larger battery is needed. Keep in mind that the loading power decays substantially when the battery goes from 80% capacity to protect from excessive degradation. The usual thing is that the cargo peak arrives, at least, after the first 10%. Therefore, filling 80 kW from 10 to 80% of the battery capacity would imply having about 115 kWh capacity under the body. In addition, the charger must be able to supply this power during those five minutes without resenting the least. The load should be, at least with a power of 960 kW. An absolutely unknown figure currently in European loaders. For Mercedes it makes no sense And they are probably right. Although those 400 kilometers of autonomy in five minutes sound especially good, what they say in Mercedes is that a stop to fill a gas tank involves stopping about 10-12 minutes on average. And that is where you have to point. In order to load that amount of kilometers, huge infrastructure is needed around each electric car. Byd will have to display your own loaders And only a few cars can assume that stream of electrical power. To get an idea, a Tesla Model and Juniper It has the capacity to recharge its batteries at 270 kW (about three times) and a Porsche Taycan, one of the models with the best figures on the market, “only” admits 320 kW of power in a recharge. With 320 kW of power, Porsche Taycan only needs 18 minutes to move from 0% battery to 80%. With that 80% battery, which has a useful capacity of 97 kWh, it should be able to make the aforementioned 400 real kilometers. If we add that the driver will never arrive with 0% battery to the load point … it is expected that with the appropriate charger the Porsche Taycan receives that amount of energy in 15 minutes more or less. According to Mercedes accounts, there is hardly any difference with what would take time to fill the deposit. In fact, I encourage anyone to think how long it takes to make a stop during a long trip with a combustion car. I do not talk about sitting down to eat, maybe or to ask for coffee, enough to go to the bathroom. I doubt that the driver has to “wait for the car” in that case, it is very likely that little by stretching his legs he has the battery ready to continue again. And we are not talking about 200 kilometers, we talk about replenishing 400 kilometers in just over 10 minutes. However, Mercedes gives relevance to the development of this type of rapid recharges. “It’s key,” says Cornelia in the podcast. “It’s an amazing advance, The industry will follow its example“, But stressed that” there is only a limited number of use cases in which such a fast recharge really makes sense (…) If you go to the cinema, you do not need a 1,000 kW load. You need something that lasts two hours. If you go to a cafeteria, you may want something faster, but it is still a 15 -minute stop to enter and leave. “ In spite of everything mentioned above and although Mercedes has recognized us That they prefer to focus on efficiency and low consumption or a greater and better density of their batteries, it is true that Byd’s advance is very interesting. First for the company that allows you to have an added value in the process of purchase of the next electric car of a potential customer, As the Tesla charger has meant in the United States. But, also because it offers support and security to the customer. You may never use it very counted throughout the useful life of the vehicle. What happens with these extremely powerful chargers is the same that happens with the Autonomies of 1,000 kilometers In an electric car (exist or not). In practice they are not necessary but help strengthen the security of those who adopt the new technology because blur your barriers With what it is to drive a combustion car. In spite of everything, one thing must be very clear. Until now, what is presented by ByD is an advance for China with two very specific models, it is not something that will reach Europe … Read more

Mercedes broke out for uncovering the anti -petitive pact

The European Commission has imposed A sanction of 458 million euros to 15 car manufacturers for its involvement in an illegal pact on recycling. Paradoxically, the scandal was uncovered thanks to Mercedes-Benz, who participated in the framework, but when exposing him to European regulators he obtained total immunity. A pact not to compete. According to the commissionthe manufacturers involved agreed two key practices. On the one hand, not paying vehicle dismantlers, starting from the idea that recycling was a profitable enough business to not have to remunerate it. They did it under a strategy that they baptized as “zero treatment cost.” On the other, they agreed not to make public data on the percentage of recyclability of their vehicles or on the amount of recycled materials used in the manufacture of new cars. The objective was to prevent this information from generating competitive pressure between brands or expectations among consumers. The infraction. These practices went against the Directive 2000/53/CE On vehicles out of use, which establishes that the last owner must be able to deliver his car to a drain without any cost. If necessary, it is the manufacturers themselves who must assume that expense, in addition to adequately informing the recycling and reuse data. The detail of the fines imposed by the EU. The highest sanction has been for Volkswagen, with 127.7 million euros. They are followed by Renault/Nissan with 81 million, and Stellantis with almost 75 million. Toyota, BMW, Ford, Hyundai, GM, Suzuki, Mazda and Volvo also appear on the list, with amounts ranging between 1 and 25 million euros. The ACEA (European Association of Automobile Manufacturers) has also been sanctioned, in this case with a fine of 500,000 euros. The investigation concluded that it acted as a facilitator of the Pact, having organized numerous meetings and coordinated contacts between the manufacturers involved. Mercedes-Benz is fought from fines. Although he participated in the illegal agreement, Mercedes-Benz has not been fined. It was the company that went to the commission in 2019 and activated the clemency program, revealing the existence of the cartel and providing key evidence. If he had not done it, he would have faced a penalty of 35 million euros. Stellantis, Mitsubishi and Ford also subsequently collaborated, which allowed them to obtain reductions in their fines under the same procedure. A pact that crossed borders. The European Commission did not act alone. The investigation was coordinated with the United Kingdom competence authority (CMA), which announced additional sanctions for more than 77 million pounds (about 92 million euros). Among those fined by the British competence authority are Ford and Volkswagen. Challenging times. The news does not arrive at the best time for the sector. The European car industry is under pressure, partly because of the accelerated growth of the sector in China, which threatens to change the global balance. To that are added commercial tensions with the United States, which recently announced new vehicle import tariffs. In the words of Teresa Ribera. The Spanish Commissioner who leads the competition efforts in the European Commission has left a forceful statement: “Today we have taken energetic measures against the companies that were conspired to prevent competition in recycling.” Along these lines, he pointed out that they will not tolerate this type of practices. Images | Yunus Yildiz | Sara Kurfeß | Olga Nayda In Xataka | The extension of the MOVES III Plan is bittersweet: 400 million euros for the electric car and the same problems always

Hesai was an unknown Chinese giant in Europe. His alliance with Mercedes is about to change everything

When we talk about large car manufacturers we can fall into the error of thinking about a vehicle as a whole that Renault, BMW, Citroën or any of the Chinese brands that intend to take a place in Europe. But nothing is further from reality. A car is the sum of many small parts. Specific parts of a combustion engine, braking systems, suspensions, seats … Many of those parts, so evident, are not manufactured or produced by large vehicle manufacturers. Bosch, Recaro or Brembo will sound, for example. In fact, Chinese manufacturers who are arriving in Europe or point to it, like Xiaomi, have not hesitated to associate (and show off this) with great more than recognized suppliers in the car market. In their presentations, Byd or Xiaomi have highlighted the role played by companies such as The aforementioned Brembo in the components that ride in their cars. It serves to gain credibility to the most skeptical. But when talking about another type of technology it is Europe that looks at China. Byd, for example, get great prices in its vehicles because It bases its production on verticalitymanufacturing their own batteries but also their own semiconductors or heat pumps. Among that “other type of technology” we can put Hesai. The Chinese company is the largest laser sensor producer. And now he has reached an agreement with Mercedes. From China to your Mercedes As vehicles have gained acting, they have also been growing in complexity. Although Tesla has made it clear that he wants to base all his autonomous driving functions or, as little, for driving in the use of software, at the moment it is still clear that cars armed with laser sensors and other radars are still safer and more effective. To achieve the best result, Mercedes has reached an agreement with Hesai, which triggers its possibilities to grow economically and reach new agreements with other companies explain in South China Morning Post. And it is that Hesai will supply radars lidar to the German company to map with better accuracy what their cars are around. In Reuters They explain that the decision has been weighed for months by the German company but, finally, costs have been imposed on any other value. Keep in mind that the sensors supplied by Hesai may not be used in Mercedes cars that are sold in the United States from 2029 if the intentions of Prohibit the sale of every car with Chinese pieces in the country. The use of Lidar sensors It is especially delicate in vehicles for several reasons. This component is always in operation, mapping everything around. It emits beams of light that bounce in an object and are received again by the vehicle. Next to the GPS positioning and the speed at which they advance, they create a three -dimensional map that takes advantage of thousands or millions of calculations per second. This has several implications that should be remembered. The use of this type of sensor allows a car to map with maximum exactly what it has around, something that they want to limit from the United States and China in the LUCK OF COLD WAR that both countries are freeing. In the United States they intend to Prohibit the sale of every car that uses Chinese software. In China, cars that want to use driving aid functions or Autonomous drivingwhich force the land to map, have to receive the approval of the government. A good that passes, evidently, to associate with a Chinese manufacturer. But, in addition, Lidar sensors are very expensive. The savings obtained in his commission to Hesai would have inclined the balance in favor of the Chinese company by Mercedes, they explain in Reuters. And it is that a vehicle can offer Semi -automated driving systems Without the use of these pieces but it is shown that, for the moment, The use of Lidar makes the difference. Although it may be more unknown in Europe, Hesai Group is a giant that is already present in 37% of vehicles that are assembled in the world, according to South China Morning Post. The company provides this type of giant sensors such as the Geely group (owner of Volvo or Polestar) and Li Auto, one of the great Chinese startups of recent years and employs more than 1,000 people, according to Electrek. But just as it happens to Chinese automotive themselves, Hesai is trying to open up to the rest of the world. With the local market already covered, they need to continue opening new trade agreements and that of Mercedes can be just the first, according to South China Morning Post. In the middle they point out that this agreement opens the door to multiply the current economic performance of the company by 14 times. Despite being present in almost four out of 10 vehicles that are sold worldwide (Only in February They already supplied pieces to 20 different brands and 120 models), the company gave brief benefits last year (14 million yuan, about 1.8 million euros in 2024) and He came out of losses of more than 241 million yuan (30.5 million euros) of the previous year. However, by 2025 they already expect net benefits of between 200 and 350 million yuan (between 25 and 44 million euros) achieved thanks to a scale production that supplies their products to about 15 million vehicles. That scale economy has allowed it Five years ago Each of them cost thousands of dollars. In view of a calculated expansion, the company, indicate in CNEVPOST Study to open its first floor to produce Lidar sensors outside China this year. Although it is not specified what places could be chosen, they do notice that they hope that the production of start in 2026. Photo | Hesai In Xataka | That Byd gives his autonomous driving is the first step: the real business will be to see a Madrid-Osasuna in the car

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